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Redhedd Spam: How Can We Fight It?
Posted On 02/22/2012 12:21:47 by steve

Eunice CrankyPonts posted a blog about how much of a pain in her ass the spam messages she gets are, and it pained me to read about how one of our pillar members is so turned off that it keeps her from enjoying the site.

(please note - this is not a general site complaint opportunity. If you've got complaints about other sucky aspects of the site, please PM me, or post it in the forums. - thanks!)

I know that spam bugs the living shiznit out of many of you, as it does me, and I want to apologize for being so passive about it for so long. Not passive in the sense of allowing it, because OzRed, gah-bless-him, is our Banman on the scene and he daily chucks the spammers and bans their IPs (most of them are from China, asamattafack).

But there's really no way to keep up with the army of pissants that think that a link on a little social network like ours is going to give them enough google juice or sucker visitors or whatever to make it worth their while, and I've been passive in the sense that I've been content to win the battles (win?, more like rebuff the attacks) rather than win the war.

So I want to use this blog post to disucuss solutions to winning the war. I don't pretend to have the best answer, and I want to hear what you Members and Staff think, and together I hope that we might come up with something that works for all (except the spammers). I've posted a couple of options below. I'd love to hear your opinions on them, and any additional ideas you have.

One solution that comes immediately to mind that I've seen put into place on other member sites is a minimum number of points before a new member is allowed to send a private message or post a blog. Downside: it makes it harder for new members to immediately express themselves. Upside: It weeds out the crap that comes from spammers and/or the flash in the pans who are merely idly curious. 

Manual verification of new members: this is another method that seems pretty workable. Downside: More work for staff, less instant gratification for legit new members who may have to wait a few hours to get access. Upside: spammers are obvious. It's easy to deny them.

Referral verification: this is a twist on manual verification the above, but gives every already-approved member the ability to "approve" a new member. Basically, every new member comes on with no privilages whatsoever beyond customizing their profile and browsing the public areas of the site. To earn posting privileges, they have to be approved (or voted in) by one (or more) members. Upside: increases member involvement and sense of community. Downside: same as above manual verification - hinders impulsive expression.

What hasn't worked in the past: email verification. I used to get a ton of emails every day from legit new members who had signed up and not gotten their verification email, either because of their junk settings, or a misspelling, or whatever. And of course, most of our spammers have email addresses built into their bots, so it's not at all spamproof.

Again, I'd love to hear your thoughts and ideas on what I consider to be the second biggest problem on this site (first being low member engagement, third being the fact that it loses money year after year). Hell, I don't want to aim too high here, but what I'd really love is if this were the first step toward getting redhedd back to humming along where it used to be in terms of activity.

So let's hear what you guys have to say about this! 

And thanks!

-Steve


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01/13/2015 06:31:11

I think that having your blog run at the top off this page of Blogs, for the last year or so, only encourages advertiser's to spam you site...

 



02/16/2013 14:54:08
damn has it really been a yar since he posted somethin?


07/02/2012 13:38:52

the best would be minimum number of points, it works for many sites and if a member wants to be active, they'll get those points very quickly. one thing i've seen from spammers, they dont like filling in their profiles!




06/26/2012 11:55:09
thanks a million mr.steve...


05/29/2012 16:31:25

I kinda like the idea of referal verification to some extent, that with a need to be a member for a short period of time before the newby can access those areas spammers target. Sounds least intrusive to you and staff and if a friend is invited they get instant access. Newbies should understand a little restriction I think.

 



05/16/2012 16:43:22

Hey there Steve-o! I was just thinking and well, I am wondering what we have come up with to put an end to the spammers? Anything in place already? I have come to find that I am getting emails stating that I have comments on my account (about 10 over the course of a week) when in actuality, there were only three legitimate comments. I don't know what happened to the other 7 because they are not there. I also find that sometimes I will get an email stating I have a comment then lo and behold it is not on my account. I am assuming you are on top of things with this and I rest assured in the knowledge that the spamming will end.

Best wishes for coming up with a feasible solution!!!! 

 



05/03/2012 00:35:01
I guess we are only discussing this.


04/12/2012 00:52:44
Steve? Are we only discussing this?


03/19/2012 22:53:00
so when are we going to implement any of this?


03/10/2012 07:01:24
no problem :)


03/10/2012 00:29:03
oh, I see, now that I read it a little more carefully...


03/09/2012 02:35:52
i am fully aware of what captcha hence my reply.


03/09/2012 01:17:48
Rapturas, Captcha requires manual entry of several characters which have been slightly distorted. They cannot be scanned and read by bots. It require human eyes to successfully get past Captcha. You might have seen it on a few sites.



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